• Shit Test

    by AlphaWolf & Co.

    Quick Definition: Often unconscious (and sometimes conscious) tests that women throw at men in order to quickly determine their social status. A shit test is a more specific instance of a “congruence test.”

    Full Definition:

    A shit test is when a woman gives a guy a hard time, usually for the purpose of seeing how he will react. Because women (especially attractive women) are hit on all the time, they have developed behaviors that quickly disqualify potential suitors that are not of a high enough value for her. The shit test is one way to do this. Shit tests can be challenges, IODs, or reframes that an HB throws to test the PUA.


    Possible example of a shit test, if the guy is being too cocky. Or it could be a genuine rejection. Nonetheless, stick it out until you know for sure if you’re after the skill set

    For example, a woman might suddenly change threads and start talking about sex very explicitly, to test the PUA’s reaction to the story. This is a congruency test of the pickup artist’s sexual experience. Shit tests can also take the form of insults. For example, when a pick up artist goes up to a woman and compliments her shoes, she might reply with a snide comment such as, “Thanks, but why are you looking at my shoes?” The PUA can choose to interpret this comment in a variety of ways. Is it a genuine question? Does the artist answer directly or indirectly? A quick way is to acknowledge it, and move on: “yes, I love style and I happened to notice your shoes. So what brings you out here tonight?” The PUA can also escalate the situation, emulating the case of poker. “I love shoes. I’m totally gay.” Saying this will escalate the playfullness of the situation, but expect more shit tests and congruence tests to follow along this line. Doing these things demonstrates that he is confident and unruffled by her comments, effectively “passing” the test.

    Another form of shit test is when a woman immediately disqualifies herself as a potential suitor by saying a comment such as “I have a boyfriend” or “I’m a lesbian.” Again, such comments can be interpreted in several ways: a) the woman really does have a boyfriend or is a lesbian, b) the woman is not interested in talking to anyone, or c) the woman is throwing a shit test to see how the PUA will react. If it is the latter, the PUA can overcome it by, again, ignoring it, agreeing with it, or making a joke about it. Tyler Durden used to say, “ignore everything that the women does or says that is not assisting with the process of seduction.” Essentially, acknowledge all forward advancements of game, and ignore any deviations from it. Mystery would agree, in that the M3 model and the attraction model are based off the woman’s game frame, not the man’s.

    Recognizing shit tests can be difficult, especially since the comment could be interpreted in several different ways. For example, a shit test could be a way to test congruency, a genuine IOD (slight negative starting value), her being in a bad mood, her having her bitch shield up, and, of course, being a real bitch. Usually, the best frame to take is that of the confident and best self. If shit tests are obviously being thrown, don’t give up! Continue plowing until the set hooks or the PUA is clearly blown out. Some of our best lines came from women who were giving us shit in a set. You may lose the battle, but you’ll learn something in the process.

    It is important to note that the intention behind a test is about seeing what the guy is made of because she’s hoping he is mentally strong. If the woman doesn’t want to talk to the guy or is genuinely annoyed, leave the set! If the woman insists that she’s serious more than 2-3 times, assume she’s serious and not testing you. It will take some experience to tell the difference. One good line to see if she’s serious is, “are you being serious or joking, I can’t tell” and then pause for 3 seconds. A good temperature test in the middle of a conversation is, “do you want me to leave?” to see if she’s playing/flirting with you, or genuinely annoyed.


    For some reason I got shit tested a lot by different girls today.

    Related Terms: Bitch Shield, Congruence Test, Compliance Test, IOD, Neg, Hoop Theory

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    M. Simon August 9, 2011 - 11:49 pm

    Her: “How much do you make?”

    Me: “About an ounce if I’m having a good night.”

    When I was in the dating pool anyway. Which was a Looong time ago.

    Mothman454 July 14, 2012 - 3:46 pm

    If its difficult to recognize shit test, how do you recognize if youve passed them? Ive remained unruffled in my cold approaches, so is that considerd “passing”?

    secret September 7, 2012 - 2:25 am

    Mothman454…how u know if u pass the test?? Just by asking that means you not passing the test! This stuff can’t be taught, it comes from deep within! You either got it or you dont! I’ve actaully figured it out, and it is my best kept secret, most guys I see are really not up for it; actaully, it pisses me off, I often see guys on the street doing this and it really looks shit, they look like real loosers (and they are).

    NTrace December 7, 2012 - 9:38 am

    ‘This stuff can’t be taught…I’ve actually figured it out’

    Which is it bro?

    Jason’s got it right. Don’t worry if you’ve passed or not. The key is to stay focused and remain poised.
    We should be looking at it as if SHE is the one who has to pass OUR test.
    What is the test?
    For me, the test is simply to show me what type of person (lady) you are. If I approach you with respect and you act an ass, then that is indeed who you are! I refuse to anyone else’s attitude/issues change the person I am. I may give her 3 strikes or maybe even 1 depending on my mood.
    So look at it that way. Allow ladies to play their position and show you what type of people they are.

    Jason November 13, 2012 - 2:20 pm

    Thats not cool secret. No need to be a douche. Mothman, you’ll know you have passed the test when she smiles or continues engaging in the conversation.
    try not to wait for her signs that you passed, keep going on like you know you already passed the test. Remember, know you are taking the girl home – and you will.


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