date: Fri, 18 March 2004 21:28:00 GMT
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subject: Bayroot On Neg …When newbs look at that they say, “Hey, wait a minute? That’s 2 different things! Telling her that you’re gay doesn’t make her self conscious or insult her!” That’s…
Context: Bayroot explains that negs are a form of false disqualification, and that the result should be fun and laughter
Negs are a form of FALSE DISQUALIFICATION. It serves to make her a little more self-conscious, so that she needs to revalidate herself to you in order to feel worthy again.
It’s a DISQUALIFIER because it disqualifies you as a potential suitor. For example, if a guy is talking with a group of girls and he says to one “I love that shirt. It’s really POPULAR these days. Everyone wears it!” he is disqualifying himself as a mate, because guys who want to pull girls DON’T SAY THIS SORT OF THING. They’re trying to suck up, whilst this guy demonstrates the fact that he hasn’t even THOUGHT about her as a potential mate.
It’s FALSE because you don’t really mean it, but she doesn’t know that. When you say, “If I wasn’t gay you’d be SO mine!” you are being false, as later you will say “Actually, my brothers the gay one. These are black nails not pink!”
When newbs look at that they say, “Hey, wait a minute? That’s 2 different things! Telling her that you’re gay doesn’t make her self conscious or insult her!” That’s because negs are MORE than that. But negs are NOT INSULTS. GET THIS FUNDAMENTAL IDEA FIRST. NEVER INSULT GIRLS. Negs are a form of FALSE DISQUALIFICATION, so saying that you’re gay DISQUALIFIES you as a potential suitor. Get it? If not, read back from the start again.
When you are saying to her “You blink a lot”, this is a neg. It’s not an insult. You didn’t MEAN to be rude; you just noticed an imperfection with her. This makes her more self conscious, raising your value and lowering hers EVER SO SLIGHTLY, but just enough. However, it’s all about the delivery. Newbie’s will say, “YOU BLINK A LOT” and get blown out and then say “fuck negs, I’ll never get laid!” Experienced guys KNOW that a neg is like a backhanded compliment, and that you have to come off SINCERE, like you were not being nasty about it. You say, “You blink A LOT! How cute!” Same line, different delivery, better result.
10’s HAVE TO BE NEGGED because their self esteem is so fucking high. They are a 10. You roll up being a 7 and she thinks “eew, another loser guy with low value”. Then you bust a neg on her, and she feels it “wow, he didn’t tell me I’m beautiful!” -1 confidence point for her, +1 value point for you. 9-8. Then she tries to get your validation back and you bust another neg. OK, THIS GUY MEANS BUSINESS. Now you’re a fucking 9 to her and she’s feeling like an 8! This is where you stop, you have higher value. STOP WHEN SHE STARTS QUALIFYING AND SHOWING INTEREST. This means you have demonstrated enough value and she thinks you are ACTUALLY higher value than her.
Same scenario with a 6. You roll up as a 7, and you already have higher value. You bust a neg. She feels like a 5 and you’re now an 8. You made her feel like shit, and now you are too high value for her. Even though she IS attracted to you, she will NEVER get with you because a high value guy will just shag her and then move on for better women, because he is worthy of getting 7/8’s AT LEAST to her. Also, you made her feel like shit, and she doesn’t wanna be with a guy who makes her feel bad.
Because of this, you can just roll up to 6’s and skip your DHV shit. You ALREADY have high value to her; she is throwing you IOI’s right off the bat!
This is why David D famously said that when he and his pals go to town, ugly women are the ONLY challenge to them. This post explains why. He is cocky funny and he is BLOWING himself out.
If anyone wants me to elaborate upon this I will, but I’ve typed enough already.
I feel like you gave off the impression that you should be WAITING for reactions to negs. This is incorrect.
You should THROW and go. Waiting for a reaction to a neg is a REACTION SEEKING behavior. It’s not supposed to be a stand out point; otherwise it looks like you are TRYING hard to get that thing to make her react. It’s supposed to come off a comment that is part of your personality.
THROW AND GO:
HB: (interrupting routine) Why are you telling us this stuff?
PUA: (to target) You know, your hair would look better if you wore it up. (Back into routine) So anyways, her next door neighbor…
If you wait for her to react the comment becomes a BIG DEAL. ATTRACTION is SUCH a small part of the whole GAME that I think you guys are placing too much emphasis on details. Some sets you only need to run attraction for a minute or two, and some sets you don’t need negs for. Remember to focus on your whole game, and realize that the neg situation isn’t a big deal. Don’t make it look like you’re trying hard to get her to REACT, otherwise you will probably trigger her BITCH SHIELD (she knows you want to get her emotional, and she won’t allow that with someone that she doesn’t know).