Opinion Opener
Quick Definition:
A type of opener used to start a conversation by eliciting a woman or a set for their opinion on a topic.
Full Definition:
Opinion openers are a form of indirect opener used to get a PUA into a conversation. These can be improvised, but more often they are scripted routines centered around topics that are designed to start a heated conversation (i.e. chick crack).
One famous opinion opener is Mystery’s “Who Lies More” opener (which has become so overused that it is often referred to as an inside joke). Basically, a PUA approaches a set, and asks them for their opinion on whether they think men or women lie more. The question has a lot of drama built into it, and is a good example of chick crack, and can be used to get a set to hook.
Opinion openers work best when they seem spontaneous, and there is a valid reason for why the PUA would be asking the question. Adding in a false time constraint will also make the set feel more comfortable with the PUA, and more likely for them to respond positively to the opener.
So the above “Who Lies More” opener with a reason and an FTC would look like:
“I have to get back to my friends in just a minute, but I wanted to ask you guys something. My girlfriend and I were having a discussion, and we just couldn’t come to an agreement– maybe you can help us. Who do you think lies more, men or women?”
Usage:
I used an opinion opener to get the set engaged, and quickly reached the hook point.
Related Terms: Opener, Indirect Game, Canned Opener, Cold Approach, Chick Crack
Source: Style
Definition by Vince Lin
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“I have to get back to my friends in just a minute, but I wanted to ask you guys something. My girlfriend and I were having a discussion, and we just couldn’t come to an agreement– maybe you can help us. Who do you think lies more, men or women?”
Don’t think it would be a good idea to tell the set/people you’re attempting to pick up that you have a girlfriend. Just my thoughts…
Correct me if I’m wrong but that’s a false disqualifier (telling the set that you have a gf).
Also conveys pre-approval by women.
hey guys..you know i used this opener over the chat in facebook and got the the girl right then and there..after couple of hour i ended up on her apartment…you know what happend next =) cheers
heres another numclose in facebook
Me
hey =)
09:15Annie
hey
09:16Me
can i ask an opinion on somthing? over a debate w/ a fren here..im sure ur na expert on that..coz ur a girl hehe
09:17Annie
haha
sure
what is it?
09:17Me
by the way still in school or you work already?
09:17Annie
university
09:17Me
ayt..hirs the question
09:18Me
my fren is dating w/ a girl now and that girl doesnt want him to hang out me coz my sis is his x b4…if you were the girl would u get mad on him
?
09:20Annie
but you guys were friend before they started dating?
*friends
09:20Me
yup
hehe
09:20Annie
then she shouldnt be mad…
09:20Me
btw is a two part question
its
09:20Annie
its all about trust
and i’m sure your sister won’t do anything crazy to break them up right
it was his ex for a reason
09:21Me
yep..trua
*true
second question hehe
09:22Me
what will you do if i use to date u b4?
now thats the tricky part
09:23Annie
wait you mean if i was in your sisters positionn
?
09:23Me
nope ur in the position of that girl?
09:24Annie
the girl thats dating your friend?
09:24Me
yup
i use to date her also
the thing is he doesnt want his man to hang out w/ our buddies now… =)
09:25Annie
but i dont know.. one thing a girl cant do is to tell the boyfriend who/which crowd to hang out
what would she feel if you tell her not to hang out with her friends?
she should just learn how to trust
if they love each other enough, then they would set boundaries
09:26Me
thats the point girls can command their guys and us guys are only followers hehe..agree? are you submissive w/ ur guy?
of he is submissive of u?
*or
09:27Annie
if i have a guy, i wouldnt go out with him if he tells me who to be friends or not friends with
and i’m not needy like that to tell him what to do
cos the more you try to tell them not to, the more they would want to do it
09:28Me
ok =) umm who lies the most guys or girls?
09:28Annie
depends
equally.. depend on the type of person
09:30Me
i guess girls..guys wouldnt actually know when the girl farts..but guys..its very obvious when they fart..so for me girls lies a lot..JOKE lol
anyway..whats your course and where you from?
09:31Annie
thats not true. my last relationship ended because the guys was cheating on me
doing commerce
filipino but living in australia
09:31Me
so your single now?
09:32Annie
singllle for sure Smile
09:32Me
hey i just saw your pix in bora..i was there the whole summer
09:32Annie
its amazing right!
09:32Me
amazing!!! =)
09:32Annie
prob will be going back for new years
where are u from?
09:32Me
philippines also,iloilo
u?
manila?
09:33Annie
cebu and manila and davao
lol
my family are everywhere
09:33Me
huh you live in 3 diff places in a single time..how Godly…hehehe
09:33Annie
lol
no.. when i go back to the phils
i normally travel around those places
09:34Me
i have a place also in manila…pque multi national
visit iloilo city..its nice here and near in bora too hehe
09:34Annie
for sure one day
09:34Me
aside from school do u wrok there?
09:34Annie
yeah during the holidays
09:34Me
PM me if u have plans of visiting iloilo
09:35Annie
sounds good! definitely!
09:35Me
il tour you around
09:35Me
nice…do the number baby…
hows bora when you visited there? did u enjoy the beach?
09:36Annie
Heres my number if im in the Philippines (###########)i cut the num out
the parties were great
09:36Me
maybe u went to one of our parties there..btw im a dj
09:41Annie
wow thats a cool job!
i want to learn how to do that one day!
09:41Me
im planning to visit there..il teach you how
09:42Annie
for fun anyways
oh yeah? whereabouts?
09:42Me
no idea yet lol..can i saty w/u
09:42Annie
haha well yeah
let me know if u ever come to perth
its a beautiful little city
09:42Me
sure thang =)
we are still intouch until now and she will visit me here next month..hows that guys?
Laughing
lovedrop mentioned in his seminar that the opinion opener was invented by style
the credit on this page goes to mystery
@ Eric – good catch! I corrected this 10/13
hi guys.
i want to ask you guys… how do i pick up girls when we both have limited time?
example: i’ m with this hot girl while we were on the bus, hb9… but any minute soon she’ll be out of the bus….do i have to neg her or do i just go direct?
time constraint: 2 to 4 mins. before she leaves the bus at the bus stop.
suggestions for openers and follow through.thanks!
@hanzo i experienced that situation b4..it you will be in that situation again you must go for it right away..maybe you forgot the 3 second rule…2-4 mins for me is enough to approach and get a number..you can use both indirect or direct openers…let say for indirect just simply ask her before she goes down if theres a nearest resto that she can suggest in the area…follow her…its worth it trust me…or go for direct game .