Last Minute Resistance (LMR)
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Quick Definition: The resistance that a woman puts up to physical advances before sex. LMR is different than ASD in that it is a natural, biological feeling. She can’t always consciously control LMR.
Full Definition:
LMR is an acronym for Last Minute Resistance. This is a description of when a woman is in a seduction location and resists a man’s attempts at physical escalation. This is often considered to be part of her ASD or Anti-Slut Defense, but the 2 terms of often used incorrectly.
Please note:
ASD refers to the social layer of a woman’s defense system. A woman doesn’t want to appear easy or slutty and will resist sexual advances even when she is attracted to a man in order to protect her reputation.
LMR, on the other hand, is the feeling she gets like she’s betting on the house. She feels this physically and can’t always control it. This experience is often lamented by pickup artists and men around the world and solutions to this problem are often sought after.
Overcoming Last Minute Resistance
For example, a woman might come home with a guy she met at the club, and may even make out with him, but resist when it comes to taking off her panties or bra. They can even both be naked in his bed, but she might still say that she doesn’t want to have sex.
In the case of ASD, it is believed to be a response to societal conditioning. Most societies consider a woman who frequently has sex a slut. In the case of ASD this social conditioning overwhelms her biological desire to enjoy physical pleasure.
Other PUAs believe that the cause of LMR (as opposed to ASD) is more biological. For example, Mystery, who is believed to be one of the first to have coined the term, describes LMR as a biological response that causes a woman to freeze up before having sex. Mystery claims that this response is universal, and that it evolved because of the evolutionary high stakes of having sex with a man, and potentially being left pregnant and vulnerable. It feels, according to a female friend of Mystery, “Like you are betting the house on red and the roulette table is spinning”.
Whatever the cause of LMR, handling it often starts early in the interaction, using time-bridging, comfort building, and slowing down the interaction to assure the woman that the PUA is interested in more than just sex, and that they will stick around after the physical act. Other ways of dealing with LMR include using freeze-outs and making a woman feel comfortable and assuring her that her reputation will not be affected.
Just as a man feels anxiety before approaching a woman, a woman feels a similar anxiety before she agrees to sex. Most women want to describe the sexual encounter as “one thing led to another” or “it just happened.” For this reason, asking a women directly to have sex will often lead to ASD. It is also important to avoid state breaks when in the final phases of seduction, and transition smoothly to sex so as not to give her an opportunity to interrupt.
Mystery gets LMR‘d
Usage:
I hit some LMR when I tried to take off her skirt, so I slowed my escalation down a little until she felt comfortable.
Related Terms: ASD, FClose, Comfort, Kino Escalation, Freeze-Out
Contributed By: Paladin
Related Links:
- 5 Easy Ways To Overcome LMR – From Johnny Wolf
- Last Minute Resistance – Love Systems interview on getting past LMR
- The Czech Out Girl – A real life example of LMR from a field report
Definition by Vince Lin
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no means no, you date-raping jerks!
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This is incredibly disturbing content. Women resist sex because they do not want to have sex at all, at that time or on those terms. Agreeing to some sexual contact is not a free pass to other forms of sexual contact: consent needs to be constantly negotiated. If consent is not given, then that needs to be respected. Reluctance is not an offer to be whittled down so some dude can get off. There seems little space in this kind of thought that accounts for a woman’s own desire, her lack of it is attributed to not be thought less of, as a slut, by the man. How narcissistic is that?! They just don’t want to have sex with you. They have a right to say no.
This is absolutely misogynistic and the line of reasoning would not hold up in any court of law.
@ WTF, when I run solid game and the girl really likes me, there is no LMR. However sometimes it does come up in one night stands. I NEVER push it if the girl does not want to have sex. Rather we help them through the slight discomfort is there is a lack of trust and comfort.
Here are 3 types Advanced Anti-LMR tactics from a lay report that were used on a swimsuit model:
http://www.abcsofattraction.com/blog/advanced-anti-last-minute-resistance-lmr-tactics-by-the-book/
1) Pre-Emptive
“It was important that I stop her before she made it about rejecting me, thereby losing control. To do this, I actually just said, “Stop. This isn’t about you rejecting me or about me rejecting you. I am just not going to have sex with you, so appreciate that we think the same way and stop being defensive.””
2) Cold
“I talked about how I was happy just kissing her, and that my desire for sex wasn’t a biological need, it was an appreciation for her and a desire to be closer to her.”
3) Hot
“I told her, several times, that, “I’m not going to fuck you because I made a promise to you.””
what the fuck is this shit? if she feels like she doesnt want to at the last minute it means she never wanted to but you people were pushing her with your little techniques. there is no need to lie and reassure her that you will stick around or that her reputation is intact when you dont really care. fucking wankers, giving men a bad name.
You know what, this site gives men a bad name. I’m serious.
Do you guys even bother wondering how you can keep a woman happy in the long term?
Instead of spending your time coming up with little “tricks” to get into the pants of the next poor naive girl who comes along, why don’t you try actually listening to what SHE says and then HONESTLY ASK YOURSELVES what value you place on women besides just using them for sex.
/facepalm all of you
Martial ARTS… teaching individuals the ART of close quarter combat.
The ART of Pickup… teaching individuals the ART of attraction and picking up girls…
If PUA (using science to perfect the already present ways of attracting women) is thought of as rape, then it is only fair that martial arts be thought of as teaching children to be violent warriors. This is not the case.
REAL PUA is not magic… theres no spells on how to magically get a girl to screw you… no deception, no lies, and no playing (in REAL PUA). Players are gonna play and have played from the beginning to the end of time… PUA will continue to build genuine attraction. So what if they know how to use science to make it more graceful and easier. If that is cheating, then anyone who defends their own in a street fight with moves they learned at karate class is a cheater.
LMR is a society trained response. just like girls play with dolls and boys play with guns. Does that mean it is WRONG to tell a little boy that it is ok to play with a doll if he wants… is it WRONG for a girl to wanna play cops and robbers… so why would it be wrong to build further comfort and show someone that sometimes what they were taught is wrong.
In the end haters are gonna hate, but good luck with your old techniques… lemme know how they work out for you… And FYI I remain very good friends with ALL the girls that I have targeted to this DAY. As a matter of fact, I have helped them find other guys and they have been my WING. if this was so demeaning to women then why would they even contact me the next day… I am not building hookups, im building attraction. And there is still a very mutual attraction between my targets and I. Some remain sexual, and some would rather go for something more serious, but either way its still their own decision.
Get a life you GDI AFC’s.
Copy that motherf**ker… whoever @You are all ridiculous is.
Faced LMR in personal practice couple times and it might distract a lot. Just stick to the point, let it go a little and add more comfort and relaxation.
And think is exactly what she needs to do to avoid being with losers like you. If you get thrown into jail for rape, don’t bitch and cry when some guy is butt-fucking you. You’re just getting what you deserve.
Listen. When a girl says no, stop. You don’t keep pressuring her until you get the answer you want. That’s not a real yes – that’s manipulation and you know it.
This is exactly the reason why certain organizations have “no means no” campaigns – THIS IS RAPE.
If a girl really wanted a guy, she won’t put up resistance. Also if he sets a strong precedence, she’s less likely to resist later on. I.e. “I promised you a massage earlier right? Take off your shirt please.”
There will always be comments like “rape!” or “assholes!” when in fact the underlying process her is that sometimes, women tend to put up SOME resistance right before sex. We theorize this is for biological wired reasons to make sure that the guy is worth it, or a socially conditioned response to make her seem less like a “slut”. In any case, to me, rape is a physical force against her will, and rapists should be jailed and given harsh sentences. No one should have to go through that.
To PUAs, managing LMR is the mental connection you have with her and what she really wants to do. It has nothing to do with rape and I’m not even sure if it was worth my effort to even respond to comments of this sort.
Violence or physical force is not necessarily a part of rape. So long as there’s unwillingness whether she expresses it or not, it’s rape. If you have to *make* her have sex with you or even need to coax her, she doesn’t want it and it’s rape so stop with the slimeball justifications you dumb fucks. Not all women put up resistance before sex; what the fuck is with this “slut defence” shit? Women need sex too. Your so called “biological wired reasons” needs some solid science. Where does it come from? Show me some consistent studies. Sadly none of you can. No means NO, sleazebags.
To all the losers who are saying that LMR techniques are like rape – you obviously have no idea of what rape is. LMR is about putting a woman at ease and helping her overcome the subconscious biological uptightness she’s saddled with so that she can have a good time too. Simple. And yes, it’s results based, so what? If you’re arguing that women are dumb enough to be raped by virtue of these basic psychological tips, then it’s clearly YOU who have a low opinion of women, not us. All the LMR techniques in the world won’t convince a woman who really doesn’t want to have sex to have sex. It’s not hypnosis, you know! Everyone’s a winner. So pull the plugs out of your butts and start having sex yourselves – you might be less touchy.
Amen.
Actually, I’m all about the rape man.