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  • Opinion Opener

    By on December 26, 2008

    Quick Definition: A type of opener used to start a conversation by eliciting a woman or a set for their opinion on a topic.


    Full Definition:

    Opinion openers are a form of indirect opener used to get a PUA into a conversation. These can be improvised, but more often are scripted routines centered on topics that are designed to start a heated conversation (i.e. chick crack).

    One famous opinion opener is Mystery’s “Who Lies More” opener (which has become so overused that it is often referred to as an inside joke). Basically, a PUA approaches a set and asks them for their opinion on whether they think men or women lie more. The question has a lot of drama built into it and is a good example of chick crack, which can be used to get a set to hook.

    Opinion openers work best when they seem spontaneous, and there is a valid reason for why the PUA would be asking the question. Adding in a false time constraint will also make the set feel more comfortable with the PUA, and more likely for them to respond positively to the opener.

    So the above “Who Lies More” opener with a reason and an FTC would look like:

    “I have to get back to my friends in just a minute, but I wanted to ask you guys something. My girlfriend and I were having a discussion, and we just couldn’t come to an agreement– maybe you can help us. Who do you think lies more, men or women?”

    Usage:

    I used an opinion opener to get the set engaged, and quickly reached the hook point.


    Related Terms: Opener, Indirect Game, Canned Opener, Cold Approach, Chick Crack

    Source: Style


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  • 9 Comments

    • Trecca

      “I have to get back to my friends in just a minute, but I wanted to ask you guys something. My girlfriend and I were having a discussion, and we just couldn’t come to an agreement– maybe you can help us. Who do you think lies more, men or women?”

      Don’t think it would be a good idea to tell the set/people you’re attempting to pick up that you have a girlfriend. Just my thoughts…

    • Alex

      Correct me if I’m wrong but that’s a false disqualifier (telling the set that you have a gf).

    • Alex

      Also conveys pre-approval by women.

    • karl d slayer

      hey guys..you know i used this opener over the chat in facebook and got the the girl right then and there..after couple of hour i ended up on her apartment…you know what happend next =) cheers

    • karl d slayer

      heres another numclose in facebook

      Me
      hey =)
      09:15Annie
      hey
      09:16Me
      can i ask an opinion on somthing? over a debate w/ a fren here..im sure ur na expert on that..coz ur a girl hehe
      09:17Annie
      haha
      sure
      what is it?
      09:17Me
      by the way still in school or you work already?
      09:17Annie
      university
      09:17Me
      ayt..hirs the question
      09:18Me
      my fren is dating w/ a girl now and that girl doesnt want him to hang out me coz my sis is his x b4…if you were the girl would u get mad on him
      ?
      09:20Annie
      but you guys were friend before they started dating?
      *friends
      09:20Me
      yup
      hehe
      09:20Annie
      then she shouldnt be mad…
      09:20Me
      btw is a two part question
      its
      09:20Annie
      its all about trust
      and i’m sure your sister won’t do anything crazy to break them up right
      it was his ex for a reason
      09:21Me
      yep..trua
      *true
      second question hehe
      09:22Me
      what will you do if i use to date u b4?
      now thats the tricky part
      09:23Annie
      wait you mean if i was in your sisters positionn
      ?
      09:23Me
      nope ur in the position of that girl?
      09:24Annie
      the girl thats dating your friend?
      09:24Me
      yup
      i use to date her also
      the thing is he doesnt want his man to hang out w/ our buddies now… =)
      09:25Annie
      but i dont know.. one thing a girl cant do is to tell the boyfriend who/which crowd to hang out
      what would she feel if you tell her not to hang out with her friends?
      she should just learn how to trust
      if they love each other enough, then they would set boundaries
      09:26Me
      thats the point girls can command their guys and us guys are only followers hehe..agree? are you submissive w/ ur guy?
      of he is submissive of u?
      *or
      09:27Annie
      if i have a guy, i wouldnt go out with him if he tells me who to be friends or not friends with
      and i’m not needy like that to tell him what to do
      cos the more you try to tell them not to, the more they would want to do it
      09:28Me
      ok =) umm who lies the most guys or girls?
      09:28Annie
      depends
      equally.. depend on the type of person
      09:30Me
      i guess girls..guys wouldnt actually know when the girl farts..but guys..its very obvious when they fart..so for me girls lies a lot..JOKE lol
      anyway..whats your course and where you from?
      09:31Annie
      thats not true. my last relationship ended because the guys was cheating on me
      doing commerce
      filipino but living in australia
      09:31Me
      so your single now?
      09:32Annie
      singllle for sure Smile
      09:32Me
      hey i just saw your pix in bora..i was there the whole summer
      09:32Annie
      its amazing right!
      09:32Me
      amazing!!! =)
      09:32Annie
      prob will be going back for new years
      where are u from?
      09:32Me
      philippines also,iloilo
      u?
      manila?
      09:33Annie
      cebu and manila and davao
      lol
      my family are everywhere
      09:33Me
      huh you live in 3 diff places in a single time..how Godly…hehehe
      09:33Annie
      lol
      no.. when i go back to the phils
      i normally travel around those places
      09:34Me
      i have a place also in manila…pque multi national
      visit iloilo city..its nice here and near in bora too hehe
      09:34Annie
      for sure one day
      09:34Me
      aside from school do u wrok there?
      09:34Annie
      yeah during the holidays
      09:34Me
      PM me if u have plans of visiting iloilo
      09:35Annie
      sounds good! definitely!

      09:35Me
      il tour you around
      09:35Me
      nice…do the number baby…
      hows bora when you visited there? did u enjoy the beach?
      09:36Annie
      Heres my number if im in the Philippines (###########)i cut the num out
      the parties were great
      09:36Me
      maybe u went to one of our parties there..btw im a dj

      09:41Annie
      wow thats a cool job!
      i want to learn how to do that one day!
      09:41Me
      im planning to visit there..il teach you how
      09:42Annie
      for fun anyways
      oh yeah? whereabouts?
      09:42Me
      no idea yet lol..can i saty w/u
      09:42Annie
      haha well yeah
      let me know if u ever come to perth
      its a beautiful little city
      09:42Me
      sure thang =)

      we are still intouch until now and she will visit me here next month..hows that guys?
      Laughing

    • eric

      lovedrop mentioned in his seminar that the opinion opener was invented by style
      the credit on this page goes to mystery

    • @ Eric – good catch! I corrected this 10/13

    • hanzo

      hi guys.

      i want to ask you guys… how do i pick up girls when we both have limited time?
      example: i’ m with this hot girl while we were on the bus, hb9… but any minute soon she’ll be out of the bus….do i have to neg her or do i just go direct?

      time constraint: 2 to 4 mins. before she leaves the bus at the bus stop.

      suggestions for openers and follow through.thanks!

    • karl d slayer

      @hanzo i experienced that situation b4..it you will be in that situation again you must go for it right away..maybe you forgot the 3 second rule…2-4 mins for me is enough to approach and get a number..you can use both indirect or direct openers…let say for indirect just simply ask her before she goes down if theres a nearest resto that she can suggest in the area…follow her…its worth it trust me…or go for direct game .

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