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  •  How Much Jargon Is Too Much Jargon?

    By on May 6, 2009

    Here at PUA Lingo we write about PUA jargon. A LOT. We’re fast approaching having over 450 pickup artist terms defined on our site, and we have a couple hundred more cooking on the back burner which we’ll be publishing over the next few months. There’s just so much terminology out there in the community to write about.However, sometimes the question comes up: How much PUA jargon is too much? There are many different philosophies when it comes to using PUA terminology in the community, and arguing about whether or not to use PUA acronyms is a popular bit of dick crack on many community forums.Some PUA gurus are dead set against it. The dating coach David Wygant, for example, is an outspoken critic of PUA lingo, and even mocks it on a blog post titled Are You A WPUA?, where he argues that women don’t use special terminology to talk about dating (although, ironically, there are a growing number of FPUAs who are using community ideas to further their game). Other gurus, on the other hand, seem to come up with new words every week. So what’s the proper balance?

    Personally, I tend to have a more moderate view when it comes to PUA terminology. While I don’t completely agree with David, I too cringe when I’m out with community guys and they use terms like “sarge” and “fclose”. There’s also a lot of words that are thrown around in the community that tend to objectify women, and some are even downright misogynistic.

    On the other hand, I do see the benefit of using PUA acronyms, especially when I’m online, and quickly need to communicate a point across to other pick up artists. Saying: “I began by casually touching her leg, then her lower back, and started fooling around a little, but when I went to take off her bra, she resisted,” is a mouthful compared to just saying “I kino escalated her, but ran into some LMR.”

    Plus, there are a lot of social concepts that are discussed and analyzed in the community for which there are no words for in the English language. Concepts such as blueprinting, peacocking, and the vacuum are all terms which have originated in the pickup community to explain very specific concepts within social dynamics. Although the dating game has existed for as long as there have been men and women, the mating dance has never been dissected before to the degree that it has within the community.

    So there are both benefits and drawbacks to using community jargon. How much PUA lingo do use?


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  • 6 Comments

    • Lodge

      Interesting question. I’m not a huge fan of community lingo, but there are definitely some words that I find useful and use on occasion.

    • Slanted

      A lot of PUA terms serve a legitimate purpose. “Kino escalation” is a good one because if you have to describe that each and every time you were talking to a friend it would be painstaking and tedious. I hate when people use it just to fit in though, or to somehow BOOST their EGO so they think they’re a master pickup artist just because they read the pickup dictionary.

      “Ohhh we’re goin sarging tonight”. Fuck you asshole, we’re going out. Let’s have some fun.

    • Yeah, using too much lingo can come across as a little try-hard, and some guys do use it to try to fit in. I think it’s natural for every subculture to have its own jargon to strengthen their group identity.

    • Hey Casual great post. I am not a huge fan of lingo and don’t really use it much if at all. However I can see that there are some benefits too using it.

      Like I always say ‘Each to their own’. If you want to use jargon then go ahead. If not then don’t bother. Simple.

      “Ohhh we’re goin sarging tonight”. Fuck you asshole, we’re going out. Let’s have some fun. Slanted just wanted to say I am in total agreement :)

    • Barbebjarne

      lingo is fun

      what’s the big deal…

    • Publish as much as you can, Some PUAs live by the game and wish to take it to the next level. Don’t listen to Wygnant, he might have some good info but hes got no love for the game. If your in the Navy, you are taught in boot camp to speak Navy lingo ie “blue jacket, sea bag, dixie cup” etc – If your a skater then you talk sk8 lingo “Royale, fish brain, bio-540″ If your a PUA then learn to communicate it ie – “Disarm the obstical while obliquely downloading your DHVs into the targets head.” etc – It doesent matter if regular people understand you or not. The game is all that matters – Survive and replicate – you have 28,251 to make it happen and everything else is bull shit! – PUA all the way!

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